Installation Resources for Windows Vista 32-bit and 64-bit Systems


Posted by Nick White on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:56 PM 34 Comments

Our Support Team has put out two useful Knowledge Base (KB) articles to relay information on upgrading and/or installing Windows Vista from Windows 2000 or Windows XP.

KB 932616: Installation choices for consumer versions of Windows Vista (32-bit only)

KB 932795: Installation choices for 64-bit consumer versions of Windows Vista

If you have questions on the Windows Vista upgrade or installation processes, I suggest reading these KB articles for more detail before you proceed.

On a related note, Support has noted that some users of some systems running certain spoken languages supported by Windows XP have experienced problems when upgrading to Windows Vista.  Take a look at this KB article to learn more about this issue and how to work around it to ensure a successful Windows Vista installation.

 

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Posted by Connected to Vista Bookmarks


The Windows Vista Support Team has published two Knowledge Base (KB) articles with helpful information

 

Posted by Corrine


Thanks, Nick.  Your post reminded me to add a link to the search page for KB articles on Windows Vista to my mirrored Vista Bookmark blogs.

Pingbacks:

http://securitygarden.blogspot.com/2007/03/installation-resources-for-windows.html

and mirrored at Windows Connected:  http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/corrine/archive/2007/03/13/installation-resources-for-windows-vista-32-bit-and-64-bit-systems.aspx

Regards,

Corrine

 

Posted by newscientist2000


Just one question, does Microsoft deactivate an XP product key when you install a Upgrade version of Vista over the top of an exsisting XP install?

As some users may install Vista only to realise later that their machine does not meet Vistas recommended minimum requirements, and they may want to switch back to XP after the fact for that machine, at least until they can buy more memory etc.

There are rumours on the web that this is true, however since to do a new install of a Vista Upgrade back onto the same machine you would first have to install and reactivate XP and then install over the top of that the Vista Upgrade Im not sure that it would make sense to deactivate a XP key in this way.  Of course you could stop internet activation of the XP and require phone activation and talking to a rep, as a fair compromise.

 

Posted by MikeW2


The installation guide for 64-bit Vista misses out a key point when talking about installing Vista on a PC running XPPro 32-bit.

I had XPPro 32-bit on C:. (Which I made an image backup for along with one for D:)

I installed Vista Ultimate 64-bit after (yes) booting from the DVD drive.

Because C: had less space available than D:, I installed it on D:

I was *postively* surprised to find that I after installation had dual boot to both XPPro and (default) Vista.

This isn't mentioned at all in the document which is a pity because it's a very good feature of such an installation.

Mike Walsh

 

Posted by Martechsupport


Some Driver Pcu and use drvice are not compatible with vest i would like to know if you have resolved this problem

 

Posted by Mike Thommes


Does anyone know if Windows Vista puts up any kind of warning as it approaches the 180 day mark of not being able to contact the KMS server to which it originally registered?  TIA!

Mike Thommes

 

Posted by penny


How do you get Microsoft to recognize your MOLP license key for Vista. When I try to register, it says invalid DNS entry. We have purchased 20 license and I need to be able to test this in production. Please help: langp@uah.edu.

 

Posted by polgag


Question

I have vista home premium 32b

Can i go to actual 2gb ddr2 800

to 4gb

Most say i can't go bigger than 2gb

on a vista 32b ????????

 

Posted by Mike Thommes


I'd like to edit my profile here, but it appears I can't.  Am I missing something?

Mike Thommes

mthommes@anl.gov

 

Posted by Nick White


Hey Mike Thommes:  you can edit your profile by clicking your name where it appears in the upper right-hand corner of any page in this blog (next to "Signed in as").

 

Posted by Nick White


Hey polgag:  32-bit installations can support up to 4GB of RAM, as detailed on the Windows Vista Product Guide:  http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2006/11/29/windows-vista-product-guide-is-live.aspx.

 

Posted by Linda Moore


Where would I find the most up-to-date list of those software programs, which have received the "Certified for Windows Vista"?

Same question for "Works with Windows Vista."

I have reviewed the knowledgebase article KB933305 and I have also looked at the app compatibility toolkit 5.0. This toolkit requires a download and running it on each computer. It would be very helpful, if there was one webpage, where the information was as up-to-date as the information contained in the app compatibility toolkit.

Could you please point me to that webpage?

I also noticed in the KB933305 that the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MMSRT)is NOT listed. Is this an oversight.

It has been reported to me that when the MMSRT is updated, it then deletes the anti-virus software. This was tested with Trend, Norton and AVG. Trend is "Certified for Windows Vista" and AVG has received the logo of "Work with Windows Vista", which leads me to think that the issue may reside with MMSRT.

The temporary solution is Not to apply the MMSRT updates.

Thanks,

 

Posted by Juan Manuel Martín Castillo


I´ve bought a 64bit version of Ultimate for 4Gb and now I think it´s not a good idea, couse 32bits manage 4gb too! ¿Will I be able to work well with Adobe Studio CS2.3 til CS3? We are a press and avertising design studio and use office, CS2 &CS2.3, Cinema4D and Macromedia Studio 8. I thought 64bit SO would be an inproove. ¿What do yo think?

 

Posted by Nick White


Hola Juan Manuel:  for 64-bit computers to take advantage of that architecture, they need applications that are specifically written to use 64-bit memory addressing.  While 64-bit computers will run most 32-bit applications, it's only when it's specifically written for a 64-bit platform that an application's performance improves due to the new architecture.

You'll want to install the 64-bit versions of the applications you use when they become available, as it's then that you'll see the performance gains offered by 64-bit.

Espero que te ayude esta respuesta.  Y, sí se habla español ;)

 

Posted by Nick White


Hey penny:  I wanted you to know that I discussed your issue with a few of our licensing experts and they suggested you take a look at these two resources:

- http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/plan/faq.mspx#ESHAC

and

- http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/plan/volact1.mspx

Note that KMS keys require a minimum of 25 PCs to activate against the KMS host to test correctly, so if you only have 20 machines to activate, you should be using a MAK.  If need be, you can request a MAK via eOpen (there is a link that says "Request Multiple Activation Key(s)"). Click on this link to receive a MAK in realtime.  Or, contact the Activation Call Center.

Hope this helps.

 

Posted by highway


Hi, I purchased a new 64 bit computer with Vista 32 bit installed.  Is it possible for me to reinstall a 64 bit copy of Vista with my 32 bit registration key?

 

Posted by Nick White


Hey Martechsupport:  check out the Windows Vista Hardware Compatibility List at http://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/ and the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor.

 

Posted by Greg64


Like "highway" above, I would like to install 64 bit Vista on my machine.  I purchased a Dell machine with a Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz 64 bit processor and 4GBs of RAM expecting that Dell would install an OS capable of actually addressing the full 4GB.  I paid a premium to get Vista Ultimate as I mistakenly assumed I would get the 64bit version.  In talking to their support people, they only make the 32 bit version available.  I'm not very happy that there is seemingly no way to get a 64 bit version short of purchasing a retail copy - effectively making my OEM purchase with the machine entirely worthless.  I'm rather angered that neither Dell nor Microsoft seem to understand why I feel less than satisfied.  If anyone hears of a resolution, I'd love to know.  Having already paid for a license for this machine, I refuse to pay for a retail copy on principal.  I paid Dell a $170 premium to get Vista Ultimate (on top of the cost of the regularly included Vista Home) and they only build machines with the 32 bit version of Ultimate.  I understand the retail packs of Ultimate include both the 32 bit and the 64 bit versions on disk.  It angers me that Dell charges a premium for Ultimate and then doesn't deliver a 64 bit version.  There doesn't appear to be anywhere on Microsoft's sites to order the 64 bit version since this is an OEM install by Dell.      

 

Posted by TerenceBoyle


Hi Nick,

I am getting ready to upgrade my system to windows vista ultimate.  Unfortunately I recieved only the 32 bit OEM version wit hmy new machine so I am waiting for the 64 bit version to arrive.  Here's my question:

-  If I go ahead and install the 32 bit version now will I be able to upgrade to the 64 bit version without having to do a clean install?  That is will all the applications, etc. that I have install remain or will I have to redo this work?  

I have looked through the FAQ and other links and it looks like I can do this, but it isn't expliciatly stated and installing a full edit suite is quite a bit of work that I don't want to repeat.  At the same time, I am anxious to use my new software and hardware.

Thanks for any advise you have.

Terry

 

Posted by Gavin


HI,

I work in a training department and want to know if I can with the one product key have both 32 and 64 bit versions on the one machine (dual booting between the two versions when needed) to help train tech agents to support our products on Vista, they would never run at the same time as they would be installed on the same PC so it would be impossible to have both running at the sometime. Would this be classed as one PC/one licence still our would I not be able to activate one of the products. Would I have to uninstall and then install the other version a lot of question any help much appreciated.

Gav

 

Posted by Nick White


Hey Gavin:  I'm not going to interpret the license for you, but I will state that you cannot install both the 32- and 64-bit versions of Windows Vista simultaneously on the same machine (nor on a second machine, for that matter) using the same device key / PID.

 

Posted by ibrahimco


HI:

I have installed wmdc and my pda says connected but the wmdc doesn't open and when i open it it says not connected or it says error, I tried everything fron re istaling it to disconnecting the cable to restart my pc i have vista ultimate 32 bit, please help

 

Posted by janely


Hi ibrahimco,

Please send mail to dcinput@microsoft.com describing your problem.  I can help you troubleshoot from there.

Thanks,

Jane

 

Posted by seand


I've had Vista 64-bit (ultimate) running on my machine since I installed it a few months ago and have finally got to the point where the lack of applications and drivers is forcing me back to the 32 bit version.

Can i install the 32-bit version over the 64-bit version or is it all going to go horribly wrong?

 

Posted by Nick White


Hey seand:  if you're going to re-install the 32-bit version of Windows Vista, I'd suggest doing a clean install so as to eliminate any trace of the 64-bit version and thereby avoid the possiblity of any conflicts cropping up.

 

Posted by Sezmil


Hello,

I have a simple question. After installing Vista Ultimate 64 bit, I am finding that there are a couple of critical aplications I need to install that do not support the 64 bit platform.

Therfore I am considering installing a copy of Vista Ultimate 32-bit and I want to know if it is safe to install this as a dualboot configeration with my 64 bit install.

 

Posted by Nick White


Hey Sezmil:  while I've not used this set-up myself and so cannot comment firsthand, I do know of some folks who dual boot WV in x86 and x64.  Most prefer hiding the partitions from each other (using a third-party program) just to keep things clean.

 

Posted by Sebass


With Windows Vista, customers are free to choose either 32-bit or 64-bit editions when purchasing Windows-based computers, and licenses for Windows Vista are valid for both 32-bit or 64-bit editions of the OS. In addition, many 64-bit drivers are available in the box, and device manufactures are required to provide both 32-bit and 64-bit native drivers as part the Windows Logo Program.

you can find this artical at this web page

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb219721.aspx

 

Posted by Molham


Hi Nick,

I have a dual xeon quadcore system with 12 G.B of RAM.

I am running windows vista ultimate 32bit on my system, it only shows less than 4 G.B of Memory, which is understandable due to the limitation on the 32 bit platforms((2^32)-(memory address and so)).

In order to use my system at full performance I wanted to install Vista Business 64 bit, where I can get 2^64... 128 G.B Approx

Practicly I was thinking to do so.

Have a dual boot between ultimate 32 bit installed on C: and vista business 64 bit installed on D:

At last my 2 Questions:

1- Is it possible to have a dual boot between 32 bit and 64 bit ?

2- Does Vista Business 64 bit support most of the 32 bit software out there?

To be honest with you, I see no problems running that dual boot system, as well as no problems running 32 bit software on a 64 bit OS.

Please let me know if there would be any conflicts.

 

Posted by Nick White


Hey Molham:  1) There is no MS-supported way that I'm aware of to dual-boot both 32- and 64-bit Windows Vista.  There may be some community-released options out there enabling this scenario, but know that those are not MS-supported.  And, 2) yes, you can run most 32-bit software on the 64-bit system, either natively or in compatiblity mode -- read the documentation on the specific software for details.

 

Posted by jackel


Hello,

I have a 64 bit Vaio running the Home Premium X32 and found a web page were I could purchase the cd for $10.00 to upgrade my OS to X64. When I went to check out the power went off and I can't remember how I got to that page. Can you help me with the link to get back so I can make my purchase? I have spent 2 days searching and have been uccessful.

Thanks,

 

Posted by johnp0126


Running Vista64 SP1 on Thinkpad t61p high end 4gb / 160gb 7200rpm drive.  It runs very well so far.  We have machines purchased with the 32 bit windows, does the license for that work with the same release level of the 64 bit ie 32 bit business vs 64bit business ?  thanks :) and I found useful info here.  seems to say you can do this but want to verify

 

Posted by sombster


Hi. After reading this, I'm hoping to get some true clarification. I have 32 bit Vista, and recently got a 64 bit machine. Called MS to get 64 bit cds shipped to me (cost 10 bucks). One guy told me that YES I can use the 32 bit key to install the 64, another told me no, and that NO key is included with the CD they will send, and the last person told me that I will get a key, and that the 32 bit key won't work with 64 bit.

So.. I've read so many different theories, can anyone who's actually DONE this confirm if the 32 bit key worked to install the 64 bit version?

Thanks!

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