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I was previously using Foxit PDF IFilter for X64 Vista searches. Do I need a new version from Foxit?

I did a reinstall on Foxit PDF Ifilter with the repair option.  This seemed to fix the problem.

On Vista does this just integrate into the existing Vista search?

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100000000 THX Nick

THX Microsoft ;)

@fredclown

Push F3 in desktop

Hello Nick

do you know where can one find the adm, admx templates for the Group Policies? ;)

cas

The improvements are very solid and featureful. Congrats. But the single most useful thing I could ask for is the availability of search folders/virtual folders on Windows XP in Explorer. This has been available on the Google search platform as third party extensions/utilities. Are there any utilities which use the WDS API or does Microsoft ever plan to bring virtual folders to Windows XP?

IMO, a must-have for Vista is being able to temporarily pause/stop background processes like Search in an easy way for the enduser.

Should not be so difficult for MS to create a tray icon app or sidebar gadget for this.

Can it now index the text in OCRed TIF and MDI files?

Where is the support for Windows Search 4? Where do we put questions and bug reports?

This addon for GDS for instance gives virtual folders to XP. Is there a similar to WDS?

Announcing the Windows Search 4.0 Preview Vista Team Blog Download Mark Harrison

Argh - _still_ no separate Programs subgroup in the deskbar, killing it as an app launcher.

This has been missing since ver 2.6.5 - why?

Announcing the Windows Search 4.0 PreviewAre we there yet? Just after the release of Windows Vista SP1...

So how do we index folders on network shares? The download hints that it should be able to do this, but I don't see options anywhere on how to do it.

Nick over on the Windows Vista Blog has put up an article describing what is available in the preview

PhilSweet,

Windows Search 4 should continue to work fine with any IFilters previously working on Vista {or Windows Desktop Search 3 on XP}.

Hello,

I am running Vista Enterprise.  The search on  my install, will once every 30-40 minutes totally lock my system for 60seconds to 90seconds. What happens is the search index totally pegs my hard drive rock solid. When the search is done with locking up my system, my system runs fine again.  Any tips? I have all the Vista udpates and installed SP1 last week via Windows Updates, but I still have this search bug.

Any help?

Thank you,

Bob

It looks like Outlook 2003 is not supported anymore.  Is that correct?

I don't see any searches working in Outlook 2003. Is there some additional setting that must be enabled for this to work?

If search doesn't work with Outlook 2003, that's a major, major dropping the ball problem then.

While it's always nice to see Microsoft fix bugs and add a few features.  I have to say that X1 Professional Desktop Search Client has had most of these features for years.

Check it out for yourself.

http://pro.x1.com/

We haven't dropped support for Outlook 2003 - the supported versions of Outlook that can be indexed and searched remain the same as in the original Vista Search.

If you are having issues getting search working in Outlook 2003 {or in fact any issues at all with the Windows Search 4 Preview I'd recommend looking at our discussion forum here: : http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=847&SiteID=1

Dave Wood

WS4 will not install on my system.  It says the update "does not apply to your system".

I am running 32-bit Windows Vista SP1 Business.  I downloaded the appropriate update and tried to run it.  When it failed, I checked that I had indeed the correct version for my PC.  I rebooted, re-downloaded the correct version, and tried to re-install.  Same problem.  I re-ran WGA to see if that was the problem, and it says my copy of Vista is fine.  My system info also says it is activated.

Brandon,

I just installed the 4.0. I'll reply back in a day and let you know the results. I went here to get the update: Download the 32-bit Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 package now.

Thanks,

Bob

PS. Have you heard of anyone having this lock up the system problem from the search index service?

Nick,

Great news, thanks!

Will it be safe to update to Final version if this is installed?

Thanks,

McoreD

I installed it on my SBS 2003 - wow. When I access a server share with my vista clients and type in a search term in windows explorer (share accessed via explorer) I get the result within milliseconds - that is more than wonderful!

Just one question: to search the shares I have to open them in Windows Explorer, the search in the start menu does not include the server shares. I assume the reason is to reduce unneccessary RPC Calls, but is there a way to do it anyway? [yeah, yeah, stupid users, you gibe them 4.0, they want 5.0,..].

Cool stuff, keep up the good work!

Does the preview now highlight the text you've searched for?  I used to have that feature in a competitor product years ago (Enfish, one of the forerunners before desktop search took off) and I miss it in Vista

Where I can post my HATE for VISTA OS , that MICROSOFT will read. MITCH

Related to the update does not apply to your system error.

I had to uninstall SP1 beta under ADD/Remove KB936330

Updated drivers and hotfixs via Window update, and then after windows update offered up the final version of SP1.

Now I have been able to install 4.0 preview

When are you going to update the UI of the advanced search?  Right now it is absolutely terrible, I never use it, it rarely even finds what I want.

Search UI is as important as what is under the hood.

Copy Apple, their UI is perfect for search.

Re TristanG007's comment:

I already went through that process, and still cannot install the update.

How stable is this build considered to be?  

I use Desktop Search in Vista all the time, and performance has always been an issue for me especially coming from the Mac where Spotlight is much snappier on my 5-year old Powermac comapred to my new Dell XPS M1330 laptop.  That said, I would like to install this, but I am worried about stability.  Is it better to just wait for the final release, which I assume will not be too far away?  

Is there going to be an easy upgrade path for Preview users to the final product?

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Ah Desktop search convenient, but not a feature I want at home, an index makes it far to easy to find files labelled "My Taxes" or with the extension "*.T07" or "*.TAX" with all the security risks that brings, still it would be a nice feature on my work machine where the files are of a less personal nature, and the computers + network is more secure.

I hope this fixes the problem with outdated index entries

this version ends to MAY

Brandon,

I installed this search update on Friday. I'm still expierencing the 60 second lock up of my pc.  Any ideas? I keep Task Manager up and running to see what is going on when this happens. It's the searchindexer.exe that is pegging my hd.

Thanks,

Bob

Microsoft has released a preview of an update to its Windows desktop-search tool to clear out bugs and

Is this the only place to provide feedback? It's odd that Microsoft would post a preview and ask for feedback but give no indication of how to provide that feedback.

So here is the issue: I have installed the preview in both Windows Vista and on Windows Home Server. On my Vista PC, when I search for a known keyword tag assigned to my photos, I get results based on the tag. But on Windows Home Server it appears the index does not see the tags at all. With the same photos copied over to the server, I can't get any results based on tags...either searching the shares from my Vista PC or searching directly from the server via remote desktop. Indexing is complete on the server. It does return results for words that appear in photo captions so it makes no sense that tags would not be included in the index.

Aside from that, I think it's great how I can use the server's index from my client PC without indexing the shares on the client. But not being able to search photos by tag is a disappointment, so I hope it is only a bug in the preview.

I have successfully installed the Adobe x64 PDF IFilter, and it shows in File Types as 'PDFFilterShim (x64) Class', but the contents of my PDFs do not seem to get indexed.

I have done a rebuild.  Anyone else seeing this issue?

I've just installed the update.  The first search test was promising -- searching through text files for a keyword gave the exact same results as a search in Windows 2003 Server.

Hey Dave Wood and Brandon, according to http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/desktopsearch/overview/featurecompare.mspx, Outlook 2003 is not supported in Vista search. So this version won't too right? I thought MS supported at least the latest version and the one before it.

IU'll ask this wuestions again since:

1. It's been asked at least three times now in this thread

2. Brandon has answered other posters.

3. It doesn't work for me at all, even though others on this board claim it does.

4. The Search website explicitly shows it NOT being supported.

5. Outlook 2003 is, by far, the most popular Exchange client on the market today.

Sorry, for the repeat, but these forums are frustrating.

It appears many people post questions and then a few cherry-picked ones are answered but Brandon while the rest of us are left wondering.

I need a definiative answer...does Windows Search 4.x support Outlook 2003 clients. If not, then I'm afraid MS really, honestly, truely, can't do anything right with search at this point. It doesn't matter how cool the tool is, if it doesn't support the common platforms in use today for MS's flagship enterprise communication platform (namely Exchange/Outlook/Office).

If it does work, then my appologies for misunderstanding. Could you please tell me HOW to turn this feature ON, so I can begin enjoying the greatness of Search 4.0!

:)

Thank you and have a great day.

Hi Bob {and "someone"},

Windows Search 4 very much supports indexing and search of Outlook XP, Outlook 2003 and Outlook 2007. This is both on XP and Vista. Earlier releases like Windows Desktop Search 3 and the built-in Vista search also support the exact same Outlook versions, so nothing has changed here.

The link is referring to the Windows Live toolbar, which is a separate release. This release does include a UI-plug-in to Outlook to support searching. It's possible this plug-in doesn't run on Vista - I'll have to check. But even so, you can still search for emails through the Vista start menu {just hit the Windows key and start typing}, or from a Vista search window. I spend much of the last two years working on this feature {using Outlook 2003} - it really is supported.

So if this isn't working can I ask you a couple of clarifying questions:

- Are you running Vista or XP?

- Do you see e-mail search results from either the Vista start menu or XP Windows Search window?

- If you go to the Indexing Options control panel do you see "Microsoft Office Outlook" listed as an item being indexed?

- If you click Modify and expand the Outlook node do you see a list of your mail stores and PSTs which are being indexed?

If something isn't working somewhere let's see if we can track it down ...

Dave

Dave Wood,

I am running Vista Enterprise SP1. I am also running Office 2007 Pro SP1.

Yes, I see e-mail search results from the Vista Start Menu.

Yes, I see MIcrosoft Office Outlook as an item being indexed.

Yes, I see my two PSTs being indexed when I click Modify and expand the node.

Thank you for following up with me on this.

Bob

There is a feature that I 1st found of Windows Home Server that can be applied to SBS, Windows Server

La versión beta incluye una funcionalidad que permite buscar documentos en otras computadoras de una red local siempre y cuando estas también dispongan de Windows Search 4 instalado....

Thanks for the great news. I am keenly love the new search features that come shipped with various MSFT products now and for sure the best thing I love is search feature within OneNote 2007. Imagine how disappointing it comes when after upgrading the WDS 3 to WDS 4 Preview the search feature in OneNote has scewed up... Specifically, I can't search everywhere but within the active Onenote's note. That is I simply can't search through all the gazillion of notes I have in my OneNote since the search is now limiting me to search within the scope for only that the note that is currently selected in OneNote main window! This behavior makes the  search feature completely useless...

Yes, the Search scope is set to All Notebooks on the Page List side-bar.

I would really appreciate any help on this.

Thank you.

Thank you.

This is a desperate plea: Windows Vista does NOT find files which are there (in the same folder as others it does find, so it must be an indexed location). What is the use of this? How can one fix it? At the end of every day I was in the habit of searching for files modified that day in order to back them up. This is now a pointless exercise as some files aren't found.

On Thursday, March 27, Microsoft announced the availability of the Windows Search 4.0 (WS4.0) Preview

Hey Cas - to your question of the GPO template - the WS4 installation places the templates automatically (Search.admx for Windows Vista and Search.adm for Windows XP) as follows: in Windows Vista in C:\Windows\PolicyDefinitions folder. In Windows XP, it is located in the C:\Windows\inf folder. You can navigate directly to gpedit.msc and open up Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Search.

Thanks

Hey Webster - you asked about some form of gadget to control indexing & get indexing status in Vista SP1 - well check this out - http://brandontools.com/content/IndexerStatusGadget.aspx

Hi Dreams@Live,

What operating system are you running on? And can you briefly describe the steps you took to upgrade to 4.0? And do you still repro this, or is it gone after you let OneNote sitting idle for a little bit?

Brandon Paddock, who works on the Windows Shell Team here at Microsoft, wrote a Windows Sidebar Gadget

La beta de Windows Search 4.0 est disponible Tous les détails sont ici : http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=940157

I run a small biz looking at fast growth and need my software to work reliably. I'm running XP Pro SP2 and Office 2007 SP1. I've been using the Instant Search feature of WDS 3.01 in Outlook but have had issues with old folder names showing up under "In Folder" when those folders had in fact been renamed long ago (seems I need to rebuild the Index after changing the folder structure in any way... and even that still may not be getting all of them to reset), and the long lag time when deleting a message from the results pane concerns me because I could then click on and delete a message by mistake when the item is finally removed and the list shifts on me. I'm wondering if these are improved or fixed in 4.0 and, if so, the sixty-four-dollar question is how safe it is to install this "Preview" in an environment where there's no room for error in system stability or in reliable search results. Note that it's a basic stand-alone installation of WDS -- a peer-to-peer Windows LAN but using WDS to only search the local hard drive with the default settings. Thanks!

[quote]Hi Dreams@Live,

What operating system are you running on? And can you briefly describe the steps you took to upgrade to 4.0? And do you still repro this, or is it gone after you let OneNote sitting idle for a little bit?[/quote]

Hi Lin,

Thank you for your fast response and pardon me for not responding to your that long!

1. This is 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 with all the latest updates installed.

2. I've just upgraded the existing WDS 3.0 which I had installed with my Office 2007 setup to WDS 4. That's it.

3. Yes, the issue is reproduced and I still can't search through all the notes/notebooks.

It only finds the string that I am searching for within the currently opened note. That is I have to walk though all the 100+ of notes and initiate search on every of them if I want to find something!

By the way, I have Microsoft Office Onenote item presented in the list of indexed items on the Indexing Options dialog box.

I am curious, if downgrading to WDS is the only way to fix that or there is something I missed that I had to configure before the search started work?

Thank you!

Hi again, Lin!

I found that OneNote 2007 is simply NOT recognizing WDS 4 as a setup of Windows Desktop Search! The Install Instant Search button is grayed out on the Other page of the Options dialog  box in Microsoft Office OneNote. So there's NO WAY for me to enable the instant search in OneNote having WDS 4 installed since OneNote is waiting for WDS 3.

Here's the screenshot I made for you.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/914/wdsnotenablinginonenoteos1.png

Is it possible to force OneNote recognize the new version of Windows Desktop Search or there unspecified incompatibility between the two applications?

I believe I haven't seen any incompatibilities between Windows Desktop Search  4.0 and Microsoft Office OneNote 2007 mentioned in any article. Did I miss something?

Could recreating the EnableLogging registry parameter help here like it is recommended by Daniel Escapa at here http://blogs.msdn.com/descapa/archive/2006/09/16/756826.aspx ?

Thank you in advance.

Will this work with the Microsoft plugin that allows users to add network shares to the indexed locations?  Thanks in advance.

I have never understood why WDS built in support for network locations was removed.  We commonly setup our workstations so that all user documents are on file servers (folder redirection, etc.).  So the search built into Vista has nothing of any value to find.

Will version 4 natively support network locations?  

Will it still require the UNC/Fat addin?

As I am running 64bit Vista, this addin is unavailble, I basically cannot use WDS at all.